Here's a much better editing...

Before continuing, let us simplify things a bit by letting HS=C, where C is consciousness (whatever that means in an experimentally testable sense). So this equation then means: the human soul is consciousness. Well maybe or maybe not. We will save that Theory until experiment can decide the validity or no... Maybe the soul is much more than consciousness. But surely a part of the soul is consciousness? Even if not, for the sake of brevity, let us assume that all human souls have consciousness. Then

C=a(1-P)(1-D)(1-O)+b(1-P)D(1-O)+PDO {1}

and

0=P(1-D)(1-O) {2}

and

0=PD(1-O) {3}

Interpretations:

{1} consciousness is sometimes a wave that is not observed whether detected or not, and is always the result of an observation of a detection of a particle.

{2}and {3} If a particle is not observed, whether detected or not as a particle, it does not exist. It is a non-real, virtual, wave until it becomes actual.

If All Human Souls posess Conciousness, then (as I have unassailably logically proved symolically) according to the many experimental results of the Classic Young's Double-Slit Experiment in technical jargon:

I. 'Consciousness' is sometimes an unobserved Wave, when a particle is detected (which-way information) can sometimes maintian it's quantum state regardless.

II. 'Consciousness' is whether measured (which-way info.) or no can be detected or not correspondingly.

III. 'Consciousness' is Always the result of the detection of a Particle.

IV. An undisturbed particle does not exist until measured.

V. An undisturbed quantum wavefunction does not exist. A particle can exist & not exist at the same moment, which is preposterous to the Copenhagen Approach to the Measure Problem, and inversely coupled to the Many Worlds Approach to Quantum Mechanics.

These results are the logical consequences of the data from literally 10s of thousands of experiments studying Young's DS Experiment. And the only Principle Assumption is that Something cannot have and not have a certain propertie' at the same moment in time...

Next this shall be tied to the logical interpretation for 'Consciousness' on Modern Times, using the LHC proton exper. results in technical, precise , logical , jargon.

The we shall be using the results of both ancient and modern numerous experiments to formulate the English Technical translation of 'Consciousness'.

With experiments designed to Measure said and using data-mining to cull alread-existing published results.

Unless somebody stops me.

This makes me lean very heavily toward a Cyclic Multiverse unfortunately. Hail the Programmer!

Oh, this is so impressive & fascinating that I must copy it from Mr. Reynold's Blog. Basically he worked on the S-Cam Satellite and the results are in from the Crab Nebula. Our most exact and independent and faithful cosmic time-keeper is a Pulsar in the Nebula, rotating at precisely 33 s a min. (apx.). And to get to the experimental results: the pulsar was for the first time in for all We thought the lifetime of the universe, so to speak. The Results show that Time Is Speeding Up!!! Time to climb the walls. But no, a mathematical device was able to parse the gathered photon data and futz with the time-stamps. lol. The Pular in the Crab Nebula exactly still rotates at the same rate, as it always has. All of a Sudden. This person is in my humble opinion the greatest hard sf writer alive. I say that weighlessly.

Quote: Alastair Reynolds

Wednesday, 10 August 2011Of battleship turrets and pulsars

The Crab Nebula is the remnant of a supernova which exploded - or rather was seen to explode - in 1054AD. The pulsar at the heart of the nebula - the neutron star left over when the star's core collapsed at the moment of the supernova - was discovered in 1968, very shortly after Jocelyn Bell's discovery of the first pulsar using the Cambridge radio telescope.

The pulsar, and its associated nebula, have been and continue to be of great interest to astronomers. But the pulsar itself has a direct practical application, in that it's a very precise and well-studied clock. Rotating once every 33 milliseconds, the pulsar acts as a cosmic lighthouse, sending out beams of electromagnetic energy which happen to sweep across the Earth. Visible in both the optical and radio bands, the pulsar offers a reliable means of determining the accuracy and precision of time-based astronomical observations.

S-Cam, the instrument I helped work on, was a photon-counting detector. Each of its supercooled pixels was connected to a complex chain of electronics which enabled S-Cam to record not only the energy and position of incoming photons - individual particles of light - but also their arrival times. As each photon arrived, it triggered a cascade of electrons which rose and fell in a well understood fashion. The amplitude of that electron burst gave one an idea of the energy, or colour, of the photon, and the onset of the burst told one about the arrival time. S-Cam's electronics were connected to a GPS receiver, a piece of hardware which provided a definitive timestamp, accurate to millionths of a second, for each photon.

The raw output data of S-Cam, in simple terms, therefore consisted of a long list of sequential photon events. There would be an arrival time - referenced to some offset zero point - then the X,Y coordinates of the pixel which had seen the event, and finally a parameter which was proportional to the energy of the photon.

In other words, something like this:

0.0045 3 5 15

0.0067 1 4 28

0.0143 2 5 09

... and so on. A typical observation could easily contain more than a million photon events, but we didn't need to concern ourselves with the individual lines of data; we had software to chew the numbers and spit out processed data in astronomically interesting formats: spectra, time versus intensity curves, and so on.

Occasionally, though, we had to dig down really deeply into the data, because something didn't quite make sense.

The Crab pulsar was a high-priority target for S-Cam for one simple reason: it offered us the only independent, microsecond-level test of our time-tagging. It was almost impossible to verify that the electronics chain was working well in the lab. We couldn't use the GPS hardware to generate a test signal because the GPS hardware was already part of the electronics chain - it would have been like trying to use a ruler to measure itself. We were confident that the instrument's absolute time-tagging was good to within a second, and we had no reason to doubt the precision of the individual photon events. But only an observation of the Crab would settle matters.

To our relief, all seemed well. The "heartbeat" of the Crab, as revealed by our instruments, looked the way we expected it to. Importantly, the main peak - the higher of the two "blips" in the pulse profile - was arriving bang on the nail. We could be sure of this because the main dish at Jodrell Bank makes regular observations of the Crab, and the small variations in the Crab's rotation period are tracked and published from month to month.

As an aside, the big dish at Jodrell - now the Lovell Telescope - was completed in 1957. The two hinge points, on which the dish swivels, incorporated components from the gun turret mechanisms of the British battleships HMS Revenge and HMS Sovereign.

So, all well and good. We had our well-calibrated instrument with a reliable time-tagging system. We could then go ahead and do lots of actual astronomy, safe in the knowledge that the individual photon arrival times could be trusted.

But it wasn't that simple. Much later in the program, some of our colleagues raised an interesting point. While our Crab pulse profile looked fine from a standpoint of absolute phasing, there was something a bit fishy about it. If the profile was a heartbeat with two spikes, then the spikes themselves were about 30% fatter than they should have been.

We performed an exhaustive analysis of the system and its data processing software, trying to make the pulse profile conform. But nothing we did fixed the problem. And the deeper we looked into it, the more troubling the discrepancy began to look. That "fattening" of the pulse profile was a hint that, down at the level of the individual time tags, something was going wrong. Some percentage of the photons - some, but not all - were being assigned erroneous timetags.

It only showed up in bright objects. If we go back to that list of photon events above:

0.0045 3 5 15

0.0067 1 4 28

0.0143 2 5 09

and imagine a small error - an addition or subtraction of some small number - being applied to the timetags. Now, those photons can't break the laws of physics - they must arrive in strict time order! And indeed, that's what appeared to be the case - most of the time.

But occasionally we'd see a timetag where it appeared as if a photon had come in earlier than its predecessor:

0.0045 3 5 15

0.0067 1 4 28

0.0059 2 5 09

Now, this made no sense. And it only "showed up" in observations where we were getting a sufficiently high flux of incoming photons for one to hop the queue and seem to arrive earlier than the one before it.

It took weeks to get to the bottom of the problem. And in the end it turned out to be due to a fault at the actual hardware level. A piece of electronic circuitry was not behaving properly, due - it eventually became clear - to a piece of stray conducting material bridging two parts of the electronics board. This component was a set of binary registers designed to convert the raw arrival time of the photon into a different data format, using something called a "Gray Code".

Now what the hell is a Gray Code? I had no idea, but I quickly got an education. A Gray Code, or "reflected binary code" is a very clever mathematical procedure. Incorporating a Gray Code converter into our electronics made very good sense, because what a Gray Code ensures is that there are no sudden "spikes" in the data transmission system.

Imagine sending pulses down an electronic line, encoding arrival times. If your photon events happened at nice intervals, you might get:

0.991

0.992

0.993

0.994

0.995

0.996

0.997

0.998

0.999

1.000

1.001

... and so on.

But that "roll over" from 0.999 to 1.000 is bad news, because instead of just one digit changing, four have changed. And (at least far as I understood it) that's not good in the context of electronic signal processing, where you want things to be as smooth as possible.

The Gray Code solves that. It cleverly ensures that two successive values will only differ by exactly one bit, meaning that - as far as the electronics cares - there is nothing to hint that there has been a "roll over". Later, when you want the data to be intelligible, you apply a reverse Gray Code to put it back into its normal format. And that's exactly what was going on in S-Cam.

Except that, during the Gray Code conversion, that stray bit of conducting material was screwing things up. Basically, if a digit appeared in one register, it would "contaminate" the one next to it, propagating an error throughout the data analysis.

But this effect was so subtle that we had not seen it until someone noticed that our Crab pulse profile was too fat.

Once we understood what was going on, it was relatively simple to construct some simulation software. This verified that we had a complete, self-consistent grasp of the problem. Of course, that didn't help us fix the data that was already affected by the fault.

But actually, it did! By applying our understanding of the Gray Code issue, we were able to build a piece of software which took old datasets and unscrambled the erroneous time tags. It only worked for relatively bright, high-photon output objects - but those were exactly the ones where correcting the time tags really mattered. It was hugely satisfying, at the end of this months-long analysis, to be able to regenerate our original Crab pulse profile and see what we should have been all along.

That's almost it - but for one curious twist. The Jodrell Bank observations were crucial to our understanding of the problem, and I've already mentioned that the Lowell Telescope rides on battleship turrets. Gray Codes have many real-life applications, but one of the most useful is in position encoders - especially for rotary shafts.

Think of a shaft sticking up from the floor to the ceiling. Now imagine parts of the shaft painted in an insulating material, and other parts left in bare conductive metal. Now also imagine metal brushes contacting the shaft at different positions. As the shaft rotates, the brushes will either touch a conducting patch or an insulated patch. The question is, can you design a shaft such that these brushes always give an absolutely unambigous reading of the shaft's momentary rotation angle? Well, you can - but you have to use Gray Codes to do it. And one of the first uses for reliable position encoders was in ... you've guessed it ... battleship turrets.

Posted by Al R at 08:15 7 comments

Terrifying, then a happy ending to Science's Quest to Understand Reality.---TMG

16 days later
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This guy especially deserves tix to copenhagen! If it were me, and it is, I would have stopped commenting immediately. Why put yourself out there like this? This essay is a brilliant and important beginning. Yet it wallows in obscurity. Have you even checked these sites? They're great! Lowest prices in us on auto parts. Translators, costumes, school supplies at drastic discounts 24/7? All as a reaction to getting ignored and minimalized in this contest? Just using this example, why would a would-be like me even consider entering, if it's possible to get dragged through the coals (kinda) like this? For $10k? Please: that is obviously not why this author entered the contest. Offer him a job! WTF?

My good heart forces me to admit that this is indeed me, perpetrating like it ain't!

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and one more ting. If your SEminar in Copenhagen touches too quantitatively on the Subject of Consciousness, it would only be fair (and the Scientific Method) to include the symbolic equation for Consciousness presented in this essay. Got a lot of other Equations describing the relationship between young's ds experiment and consciousness floating around, do ya, Scientific Community? You still won't have one if you don't let the one in this essay be aired.

That was me again, sorry. Doesn't moot my points. And my point isn't moot. And that equation for "C" in the essay (as stated above) is about two iterations away from incorporating commutativity and quantum probability, and therefore most likely transforming into a familiar well-known equation from physics. Then we're all gonna be scared, literally, according to the equation's description. Because at that point you will have two mutually-exclusive explanations for the equations existence. 1) One, Some or all of the currrent multiVerse theories are correct. 2) We are in a simulated universe and God is the Programmer; the information-processing universe his or her's computer; the hardware: us; the software: consciousness...

6 days later

This is my last Entry into this Threadology. Consider it frozen as is. Thank you for contributing. This whole thread and Essay has now evolved into a movie script. If it becomes successful, you will be rewarded according to a direct weighted proportion due to your contribution here. And sequels and royalties, if many...

When you contributed, you did not know that your thoughts might become materiel for part of a space opera hard sci fi movie, and in the same vein I could not have known that the contributions above from an "artifcial intelligence" would be used verbatim in the script, as a device for communicating the plot: archeologists are re-interpreting an ancient, recovered, thread (this one). But they are also running an a.i. sentient software to comment additionally, in the fairly near-future. They are preparing an exhibition on ancient ideas of the nature of reality, and this essay and thread is all that remains from fqxi's huge future collection of blogs, sites, and electronic media containing all of their various collections. All destroyed during the solar maximum of 2044, except this one fortunate essay and thread, which had been misplaced and forgotten as a middle-of the road essay (to the fqxi Community), and inavertently protected from the furious influx of hot, erasing, obliterating radiation that destroyed this intellectual monument, built by the Gruber Foundation. etc.

This is about a third or a fourth of several interconnected plot threads. Now have 42 pages. You need at least 80 pages of materiel to sell to the studios or be in Amazon STudios contest ($200K). ONly the 2nd draft is in the studio now (10 pages). I have took this thread entire, and will begin paring and parsing the ideas herein to enrich the plot line. the Project is tentatively entitled, "Quarks & Jaguars". Check it out. It could (impossibly) be in your best interests. Yes you. The 42-page 3RD draft will be submitted this weekend.

http://studios.amazon.com/users/33137

This is a closed-script project, but I will take any feedback. And will recompense any significant contributions to the script. Especially those of you out there who have actually written scripts lol.

I'm half -way there, and amazon just made bryan singer a script-judge, and upped the ante to $450K for the winning script. Let's get busy, real winners of this Contest?

Adeiu'

Farewell, it's been fun.

The Witch-Doctor, and master of the Improbable.

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Farewell, hopefully we will be forced to keep in touch in Future...

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Dear All,

Truth is not only beautiful nonsense but also absolute conscience.

Truth cannot be comprehended by the senses alone, it can only be experienced by the absolute self or conscience.

Love,

Sridattadev.

2 months later

This here is (probably) the last entry.

Just had a very dis-heartening experience. Found fqxi's mini-grant website and tried to enter my email and password. Only to find out I'm not a member. Hmmm, that being the real reason I entered the essay contest on "The Nature of the Universe" in the first place, and also why my entry was entered with only 15 days left. It quickly shot to the middle of the pack and languished with above-avg. marks.

Since then, I've tried very hard to contribute positively to the grand emergent Conversations, but have recieved very little feedback from members. And so, please remove my essay and thread, if possible, fqxi. While it was not excellent enough to win the Contest, it is too excellent to be ignored. It is posted elsewhere, so remove it. The thread is a fine one, with plenty of excellent contributions from other Authors in the contest. But it is not a resume point as everything stands.

I get it: I have to go out in the (scientific) world and accomplish something on my own first, to be considered as a candidate for fqxi membership. But isn't that the exact purpose of a mini-grant for a newbie in the field? Well, thanks, it's been real. Real embarassing... It may not seem so to others, but to prove that my fqxi work shown on thier sites is a relevant contribution, I shall continue to demonstrate the consequence throught the web. Thanks for the inspiration. Keep the stressful 90% persperation. Farewell again, Tommy Gilbertson, PsychoHistorian & Web Consultant

a month later

Here's an update. It's not for you, probably, so feel free to skip over this and continue locomoting. I am still acting upon the Virtual Reality Hypothesis, so this is for you, Programmer. There are two horns to this impossible dilemma--the other being that I am (probably independently inventing with others unknown) creating the discipline of PsychoHistory. These two possiblities are not mutually exclusive: 1) Reality is a virtual one, controlled by software that determines our physical law. 2) PsychoHistory is a mathematical discipline that predicts probabilities of the actions of large groups of conscious individuals.

2) Above was originally a fictional device invented by Isaac Asimov, and resulted in many dozens of excellent novels in the Foundation Series. Today, a rudimentary 'PsychoHistory' has been developed. It is know as demographics, or group theory or predictive anthropology.

I am assuming 1) above to be true, and am acting only to get the attention of the Programmer and thus elevate my status in this reality. My vehicle for doing this is to create a rigid mathematical discipline called "PsychoHistory".

An important detail to note is that this is only an approximate discipline: in principle it is impossible to predict the actions of an individual exactly. Thus it is also impossible to predict the actions of groups of individuals (being composed of many individuals). However, recently, I have learned that the European Community has proffered One million pounds to an individual to develop a computer to predict just this. This person has in the past had success modelling traffic patterns, and so the European Gov't (in economic desperation) has put this process in motion. Again, in principle, the variables involved are too numerous to develop a rigid theory of psychohistory (predictive). Yet the million Euros will be spent to create this program (which, since it is impossible in principle, will fail).

If hypothesis 1) above is correct, of course, all of the above paragraph is indeed possible or not, depending on the code, as it were. And to remind all, this is the theory I am assuming to be true.

So finally, here are the rudiments of PsychoHistory: It is divided into two seperate time periods: all human history before Christ, and all after. Also, there are two types of Consciousness: Consciousness proper (which I call EigenConsciousness), and Will. EigenConsciousness is located in space (the center of an individual's head) and in time (the processes of thought involve the arrow of time directionality), whereas Will is non-local and timeless.

Time Period One: Dawn of Human Consciousness-0 B.C.

Time Period Two: 0 B.C.-Present

Consciousness Type I: EigenConsciousness.

Consciousness Type II: Will

The time is divided in two, because traditionally (biblical times and earlier) individuals were named with singular names. Jesus was one man, Moses the same, Abraham, Saladin, etc. While a person was alive, his Name was unique. After these persons died, others could assume the singular names.

After 0 B.C. (approximately), we humans developed the habit of surnames, such as Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Mahatma Ghandi, etc. And there could be and currently are many with the same names: many Jesuses, many Bob's, many Tommy's.

And also Consciousness has been defined in two parts: EigenConsciousness, which is the form of conscienceness with which we are all familiar with and possess. This has been defined in my Essay entry here as "Consciousness" C. When I introduce commutativity to the essay development of C, then a commutation relation will be revealed twixt C and other observables. Once this is accomplished, the C (Consciousness) symbol will represent the smallest unit of Conciousness, of the quantum of consciousness, and then can be taken directly into the quantum theory and further developed. Also the classical analogue will be developed to interpret the theory (predictions of mass individual actions).

My guiding Axiom (as yet unproven), which has so far been 100% accurate with anecdotal evidence is that we are all getting more intelligent. And also that the rate at which we are getting smarter is accelerating.

One way to prove this axiom (Which would then become a law or principle of Psychohistory), would be two-fold. First, it will be shown that the proportion of Einsteins per total human population is increasing. Then it will be shown that the total number of 'Einsteins' for a given population is increasing. This will prove the correlation.

After this correlation is proved (that we all are smartier-pantses than we were yesterday), I shall develop laws to show that this process of accellerating intelligence has an upper limit. Not only that, but also that there are currently and will continue to be (in ever more clear detail to all) consequences in physical reality of this. We are currently seeing this.

Finally, I shall show that this realm of Consciousness is a 5th degree of freedom in reality (besides the three of space and one of time currently accepted). It is an observable that commutes with those others, and can thus be represented by a diagonal matrix. The eigenvalues of this matrix of EigenConscious States will have domains of continuous values (reflecting the various degrees of intelligence in the animal Kingdom). etc. etc. will be goin g back to University soon to do this right and Publish.

My website is still only making a pittance, so very soon I will also seeking regular employment. HInt-hint if you have any advice or offers!

This is no reflection on the sites Quality, where everything 'useful' is still offered at the lowest prices worldwide. Check it if you don't believe me! But obviously the world economies are not ready for this paradigm, as we rattle on about creating jobs and stimulating the economy, and business continues to go on as usual. We are all blind and optimistic Idiots, to think that Capitalism is a sustainable long-term strategy. Profit simply cannot be a primary goal of business in this day and age or we are all doomed. Well, all of us except large corporations, which are doing just fine thank you.

There's a lot more. But nobody listens to the Witch Doctor. That's fine, I guess. There is only one ear that is important. Call Her what you will. I call Her the Magnificent Programmer of the Universe. And I really wish She would hire me. Or at least offer a Salary to keep on keepin' on?

Applying for Grants and mini-Grants is still to complicated (for me), so I'll just go ahead with it. It's a lot easier to apply for a grant when you have the results developed and strengthened and in your sweaty fist already, before applying, don't you think?

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    Not being able to remove bad links or edit posts really sux. Now I look like an dolt, seemingly disproving my PsychoHistory Axiom lol. Thanks.

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    a month later

    Recently, I read an article that there is an experiment being designed to test whether space is discrete or continuous. Basically, the description I saw is that it will consist of two seperate interferometers (two simultaneous experiments), which will measure the difference in path length (by interference) of the light beam as it is split and then rejoined subsequently. The theory is that if space is quantized, the beam-spitting mirrors will be buffeted by quantum jitters. This will be a fundamental experiment, where the outcome is unknown. The results of this experiment could affect our fundamental understanding of the way the Universe works. And has a crucial bearing on the question of the veracity of the Holographic Principle.

    1) It is this researcher's speculation that this experiment will have a positive result, and that space is digital (quantized). I won't state my reasoning here, but will be unsurprised by this paradigm-shaking result.

    2) A beginning on mathematically formulating the qm equations desribing the experiment. It is accepted in QM that two observables can 'have a value' for any state it the state is an eigenstate of the dynamical variable (observable). So the sense that the two seperate but identical experments can be compared, as a dynamical variable describing the relationship. Or two numbers describing the eigenvalues (observations numerical results) for the two seperate experiments. This dynamical variable I call C. See my essay above for a mathematical formulation of the observable C (which I call Consciousness), without considering commutation relations. This commutation relation is critical to formulate, so will be addressed in a future work.

    Here are the equations describing the experiments: C|C'>=C'|C'> and C|C''>=C''|C''>,

    where C is the dynamical variable/linear operator representing Consciousness (the the sense of Young's Double-Slit experimental results, and therefore the above essay's derivation), C' and C'' are the eigenvalues belonging to this observable (this could be MRI scan results, interference patterns, learning potential, etc.), and |C'> and |C''> are eigenkets of Consciousness, belonging to the eigenvalues C' and C'', q.v.

    If the experiments are performed simultaneously, as is planned, the two expermental results will be described respectively by the above equations. In order to deduce deep connections and relationships in relation to consciousness (or to compare the two experiments meaningfully), an observable like C (common to both experiments) must be used in both sets of equations (again as above).

    Now, it also commonly accepted that one photon always only interferes with itself. Two different photons always interefere. How then can we possible get any insight by comparing the two seperate experiments? Each intereferometer has it's own photon, interefereing only with itself. So what possible conclusions can be drawn about the two seperate photons in the two separate interferometer setups?

    The answer is in the beam-splitter of each experiment is subject to the same (if present) average buffeting of position by discrete space. This should be an identical effect in both experments and allows compaarisons. So, again, a common dynamical variable has to be used in both equations describing the interactions. I call it C. The aformentioned experimenters may have a different symbol that represents a common linear operator...

    FYI: All you astrophysicist, theoreticians and experts out there (as will has semi-professionals like yours truly): have no illusions that by ignoring my thread here and supplying feedback so scantily, that that in any way signifies that my work is not interesting, original or incorrect.

    Please contribute to this discussion.

    Otherwise, I may be forced to continue the derivation. And if that doesn't get the attention of potential science employers, I shall reveal my own Hypothoses per Universal reality, qm and 6-D supergravity.

    This experiment is dangourous to our Ideology. We as a civilization have finally reached a point where we are beginning to objectively intuit the biggest Questions that can be asked, due to these new experiments.

    For example, what if we do eventually prove that the Universe is not only digital, but is a virtual reality? What then? How do we proceed as scientists? As spiritual people? The answer seems to be that both aspects of humanity would be required to move forward in a Universe proved to be Virtual--A NEW discipline would then be needed, one that combines religious thought with scientific thought. But that's all boring speculation about future expermental result.

    Obviously, this researcher is skipping right over these details and assuming the Virtual Reality Hypothese right off the batt! I'm skipping right over the previous paragraph as assuming the results are true. In other words, this researcher is directing research and working on consequences of a Virtual Universe as if...

    I really want to be on that team performing that experiment. In Optics 401 (lab) as University we all performed the M-M interferometer experiment to measure the 'ether' (really to prove that there is no measureable ether), but I always felt unsatisfied with the design: the experiment only measures the beam interfereence in 2 dimensions, as the experimental setup is moving through 3 dimensional space. I always felt that the whole interferometer setup should also be rotated 'up' into this plane as well, and the ether measured. Normally, the interferometer setup is only rotated 90 deg. in the horizonal plane and the exp. performed again. My suggestion is a third measurement, with the setup rotated vertically also.

    Anyways, again (if you are listening) I would wish more than anything to work with those experimenters on this. At least they should consider adding the vertical (third othogonal direction) dimension when performing this experiment.

    Nevertheless, there is still this: if I am unemployed in a virtual reality, am I really unemployed? "Real" in this case means whatever the programmers of you reality decided 'real' would be. So maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, and getting a good science job requires me to get the attention of said programmer. In general, it is very easy to get the attention of the world. But mostly this is negative attention and requires no skill s or education. Specifically, getting the world's (and thereby the Programmer's/potential employers) attention in a positive, non-harmful way is much more difficult.

    So as I am trying to attain the goals of: movie star, famous author, sports star, politician, astronaut, philospher (which obviously the world has an unnatural affection for the first four), in order to get noticed (in a good way), I am nattering away in this nabob-deficient thread.

    I dare someone famous or exceptional in their fields to comment here, and burst my bubble-universe...

      Was rapidly typing, so must make the correction that in the above, this statement is totally false, " Two different photons always interefere. "

      The correct statement is: "Two different photons never interefere"

      P.S. This fact, along with the fact that a photon only interferes with itself, has led some to speculate that all the photons in the Universe (and other fundamental QM particles) are actuall the SAME particle (each to is singular Kind, eg. one photon, one electron, etc.). Travelling at light speed and experiencing no time, this one electron, for example, makes up all the electrons in existence, travelling through Time to be many place a t once. Seriously, I'm not making that up lol!

      SciAm's Preview of this Subject

      Feynman on the Discreteness Subject

      Please email me, Craig Hogan, I will mop the floor if I have to! Please allow me to contribute. One green physicist, with a B.Sc. in Science, Optics specialty, and Mathematical minor; avaiable at bargain-basement salary (little experierence) and willing to relocate anywhere. But when I learned of this experiment, it is obvious that if I had the luxury to choose whatever I want as a career at this point, this experiment is what I would choose to work on and be a part of. Please pass this on...

      ConjugateImaginary@QuantumWidgets.com

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      Hello! Earth to all other Universes and Civilizations. We are using elliptically polarized light to encode our Greetings in a form difficult enough to take a long time to discover, and modulated and quantum-entangled rebustly enough to travel the entire cosmic horizon diametre of our own local MultiVerse, Sol Prime. Without significan losses due to intervening dark matter and interstellar dust. Still listening to Radio frequencies SETI, lol. Put these glasses on. They are simply polarizers that rotate in synch with our Greetings phase, alternate universe humans. There is life out there. It's more Us. So hello. Below is our MultiVersal representative. He's always some sort of einstein in each universe given. Everybody has heard about 6D SuperGravity. this dude invented it in this universe. See his page for more on the SuperPosition principle, The Bible, You, etc. The universe is digital. And your Scientist will soon prove this. Now what. We just told you.......>

      QuantumWidgets.com

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        That's a website, not a proper representative of the multiverse. Here's the real inventor of SuperGravity in this Universe, which we like to call Terra Firma, where fqxi has a base, incidentally. Interestingly, among the countless levels of infinitude of universes thru out the inhabited Multiverses, there are three constants found in all: That website, E. Witten, & fqxi.org. Go Figure!

        Inventor of SuperGravity

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        Bad link. In our secret pocket universe, we use the presence or absence of an fqxi.org website as the observable for the Type of Civilization that that Universe contains. The experiment actually determines whether we want to contact you or not, "Other UNiverses". If no fqxi website is present, the universe is an early civ. and we will contact them. If a site is present, their civ is Type 0-1. If the fqxi website is not present in the said universe, however other criterion are me, the Civ is Type II. Finally, if no site is present in the universe, and another (obviously secret) criterion is met the civ is likey type iii or above, to be avoided and not contacted, as likely superior to our own. Neat site that. Everybody rambling on and on about noses aproximately in front of faces. Indeed. And you call me the Witch Dr. I should go for a Ph.D. in being ignored. Already meet the minimum requirements. And can test out on many of the credits. It will be invisible, too. Like my fans. And my fqxi reputation. And plank sized, etc...

        10 days later
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        Find us on Facebook. We know what your are thinking. Starting from $20 for a talking electronic translators that speaks 10k phrases. Deluxe model speaks most, about a million phrases. And understands 52 Languages.

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